Great poll. I voted for a buff to conscripts. But im not sure its needed if grens and pios gets a nerf.
We won't really know that until evening.
Balance Poll for Early Game 1v1 (3.0.0.13106)
15 Apr 2014, 14:35 PM
#21
Posts: 17884 | Subs: 8
We won't really know that until evening.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Apr 2014, 17:30 PM
#22
Posts: 1439
Is patch due this evening?
15 Apr 2014, 17:35 PM
#23
Posts: 17884 | Subs: 8
There are rumors so take it as seriously as rumor can be.
Thou they've said they have patch notes finalized.
Thou they've said they have patch notes finalized.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Apr 2014, 17:36 PM
#24
Posts: 449
16 Apr 2014, 10:43 AM
#25
Posts: 509 | Subs: 1
The results are devastating. Nice poll.
16 Apr 2014, 10:59 AM
#26
Posts: 577
JaminCOCK, you know I respect and luv you like a little and slightly retarded brother so I took your thread completely serious. Yet even after replaying the whole campaign and checking all commanders I could not find any Soviet unit called Gaurds. Could you elaborate?
Btw wtf:
Was I like the only one who voted for PGrens as most imba? I personally think Grens are overperforming, but only a bit. If you can get close you can still win fights and such. Yet PGrens are freaking terminators - or feel like that
Besides that not really much surprising. Not sure about M3 balance - on some maps that thing is ridiculously OP, on others is utter BS
Anyways, nais thread. Cow sign of approval.
Btw wtf:
Was I like the only one who voted for PGrens as most imba? I personally think Grens are overperforming, but only a bit. If you can get close you can still win fights and such. Yet PGrens are freaking terminators - or feel like that
Besides that not really much surprising. Not sure about M3 balance - on some maps that thing is ridiculously OP, on others is utter BS
Anyways, nais thread. Cow sign of approval.
16 Apr 2014, 11:12 AM
#27
Posts: 829
^ yeah, I think everyone is focused on Grens, but PG's are harder to deal with. And so versatile
16 Apr 2014, 19:03 PM
#28
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
PG are like the ol Penals. Semi-glass cannons.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
16 Apr 2014, 19:20 PM
#29
Posts: 2053
PG are like the ol Penals. Semi-glass cannons.
How old Penals? Apparently panzergrenadiers are supposed to be justified by their cost, but they are practically non doctrinal shock troops without the survivability.
16 Apr 2014, 21:18 PM
#30
Posts: 826 | Subs: 2
Don't buff cons.
If you buff cons, the result will be SPAM vs SPAM.
Currently with the patch, I find Coh 2 requier more more more SKILL.
Your units is good at his range and can fuck the other unit if you micro your units for get the good range.
If you buff cons, the result is : Unit longe range vs Unit long range.
Gren vs Cons.
Useless game and spam with RNG for decide who win between cons and gren.
Noobs !
If you buff cons, the result will be SPAM vs SPAM.
Currently with the patch, I find Coh 2 requier more more more SKILL.
Your units is good at his range and can fuck the other unit if you micro your units for get the good range.
If you buff cons, the result is : Unit longe range vs Unit long range.
Gren vs Cons.
Useless game and spam with RNG for decide who win between cons and gren.
Noobs !
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015. I'm a God, a Pro ...
16 Apr 2014, 21:54 PM
#31
Posts: 84
JaminCOCK, you know I respect and luv you like a little and slightly retarded brother so I took your thread completely serious. Yet even after replaying the whole campaign and checking all commanders I could not find any Soviet unit called Gaurds. Could you elaborate?
Btw wtf:
Was I like the only one who voted for PGrens as most imba? I personally think Grens are overperforming, but only a bit. If you can get close you can still win fights and such. Yet PGrens are freaking terminators - or feel like that
Besides that not really much surprising. Not sure about M3 balance - on some maps that thing is ridiculously OP, on others is utter BS
Anyways, nais thread. Cow sign of approval.
lol
16 Apr 2014, 23:44 PM
#32
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
Don't buff cons.
If you buff cons, the result will be SPAM vs SPAM.
Currently with the patch, I find Coh 2 requier more more more SKILL.
Your units is good at his range and can fuck the other unit if you micro your units for get the good range.
If you buff cons, the result is : Unit longe range vs Unit long range.
Gren vs Cons.
Useless game and spam with RNG for decide who win between cons and gren.
Noobs !
Cons are so bad at all ranges, theyre almost completely worthless. A Gren can tackle every Infantry unit.
"Noob".
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b4 and soviet FHQ enthusiast
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b4 and soviet FHQ enthusiast
fan of the illustrious black prince
17 Apr 2014, 07:27 AM
#33
Posts: 807
"Which would you like to see buffed the most? (SOVS)"
Conscripts - 76%.
I can't believe it. Lol, you little spamming whores!
))
Conscripts - 76%.
I can't believe it. Lol, you little spamming whores!
))
17 Apr 2014, 08:54 AM
#34
Posts: 618
"Which would you like to see buffed the most? (SOVS)"
Conscripts - 76%.
I can't believe it. Lol, you little spamming whores!
Who would want the workhorse for the Red Army in this game to not be able to fight basically anything the Germans have? All I need is a slight Mosin buff. For me the inflexibility would be fixed if that happened.
17 Apr 2014, 09:09 AM
#35
Posts: 826 | Subs: 2
Conscripts are better at close range vs grens.
And they are > gren at close range with ppsh.
And they are > gren at close range with ppsh.
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015. I'm a God, a Pro ...
17 Apr 2014, 09:32 AM
#36
Posts: 1221 | Subs: 41
Conscripts are better at close range vs grens.
And they are > gren at close range with ppsh.
No, cons are at best equal to non-upgunned grens at short range, and worse at all others. With gren gun upgrades they are worse at all ranges by a huge margin. With ppsh they are better than grens with LMG42 but no G43 when not moving and within two thirds of a vet0 molotov throw radius, good luck starting fights from that. I consider ppsh a downgrade that you pay for right now.
Don't buff cons.
If you buff cons, the result will be SPAM vs SPAM.
Currently with the patch, I find Coh 2 requier more more more SKILL.
Because grenspam requires so much skill. Not that you're forced to do that because anything works as germans right now, but it's certainly the hardest thing to counter because there is no counter to grens.
17 Apr 2014, 10:39 AM
#37
Posts: 826 | Subs: 2
Ye sur with your tactic of 4 cons start + t-2.
Axis don't need many skill for counter you.
I'm upset, because relic will make once more a game for noob if they listen guys complain about gren.
So you want what ?
Cons vs gren, gren = cons ? And, put your unit and wait Rng decide for decide who win ... spam vs spam ?
gren are good at long range, they are rape at close range by penal shocks, conscripts with ppsh.
For balance the game for me :
-Why not at-nade for penals.
-Broke the power of G43 at close range.
-Give "mp40" to the soviet enginers or give a "weapon long range" for whermacht piooners.
Your infantery army is the result normaly of your choice at the begin of the game.
If 1 unit = 1 unit .... it will be spam vs spam, it will be Kark98 vs Kark98.
Do you want this infantery fight ?
Rng for decide who win between these 2 units ?
Olol i put them at this range or this range, it's the same, i just use cover and after pray for they win vs their clone --'
Axis don't need many skill for counter you.
I'm upset, because relic will make once more a game for noob if they listen guys complain about gren.
So you want what ?
Cons vs gren, gren = cons ? And, put your unit and wait Rng decide for decide who win ... spam vs spam ?
gren are good at long range, they are rape at close range by penal shocks, conscripts with ppsh.
For balance the game for me :
-Why not at-nade for penals.
-Broke the power of G43 at close range.
-Give "mp40" to the soviet enginers or give a "weapon long range" for whermacht piooners.
Your infantery army is the result normaly of your choice at the begin of the game.
If 1 unit = 1 unit .... it will be spam vs spam, it will be Kark98 vs Kark98.
Do you want this infantery fight ?
Rng for decide who win between these 2 units ?
Olol i put them at this range or this range, it's the same, i just use cover and after pray for they win vs their clone --'
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015. I'm a God, a Pro ...
17 Apr 2014, 10:42 AM
#38
Posts: 826 | Subs: 2
Currently you need to use your infantry at their best range for win versus the infantry with a best range different.
This is this who requier micro and "skill" i find.
This is this who requier micro and "skill" i find.
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015. I'm a God, a Pro ...
17 Apr 2014, 10:55 AM
#39
2 Posts: 83
Great post.
My votes pretty much in line with the general consensus. I would vote MHT as pretty OP too but dunno if that's classed as mid game.
Pgrens I don't think are too bad but then again its usually the shreked ones I play against/use so really just 2 AI members. If they dont get upgraded they are much more lethal and yes prob a bit op now i think about when I have used them, which I guess is early game.
My votes pretty much in line with the general consensus. I would vote MHT as pretty OP too but dunno if that's classed as mid game.
Pgrens I don't think are too bad but then again its usually the shreked ones I play against/use so really just 2 AI members. If they dont get upgraded they are much more lethal and yes prob a bit op now i think about when I have used them, which I guess is early game.
17 Apr 2014, 11:47 AM
#40
Posts: 307
This poll is not really well conducted.
Note that "Other/ None" got most votes in 5 out of 8 categories.
Not enough options to choose/ vote for.
Note that "Other/ None" got most votes in 5 out of 8 categories.
Not enough options to choose/ vote for.
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