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6 Mar 2014, 14:09 PM
#21
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pak43 is actually really great if you're behind tech and facing an overwhelming armored force, or against su85


I think against SU-85s one option is to not build any tanks of your own and getting schrecks and PaK 40s (or a PaK 43 like you mentioned) instead. Given that he doesn't have snipers or use katyushas against your infantry.
6 Mar 2014, 15:05 PM
#22
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that combo of su85s, snipers, guards and katyusha = gg
6 Mar 2014, 17:39 PM
#23
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ok well heres a sweet victory and i didnt even use a commander haha.

http://www.coh2.org/replays/14909/what-are-shocks
7 Mar 2014, 06:27 AM
#24
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that combo of su85s, snipers, guards and katyusha = gg


Panzerwerfer is a good option vs snipers but unfortunately german T4 is too expensive in most 1v1 games...
7 Mar 2014, 08:07 AM
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7 Mar 2014, 08:54 AM
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I find Pak43s to be very useful if I'm struggling with map control because of PPSh conscript spam. None of the PPSh commanders also has IL-2 Precision Strike. On small maps you can usually cover at least 1 VP with the Pak43, which will buy you time. And Ostwind or Command Tank can roll around under the cover of the Pak43, giving you a nice safe zone from which to make your attacks.
If you use Joint Operations you can make a howitzer, too, which can force your opponent to do things he might not want to do (build a howitzer, get katyushas, base rush). Joint Operations also gives you Recon Overflight, which you should spam like crazy to get the most out of your Pak43.
(You might want to refer to the commander tool: http://www.coh2.org/topic/14031/commander-tool)

G43s are also good against the PPSh blob. Suppress with MG42s and focus fire with the G43s on any squad that doesn't flop down on its belly. Two squads of double vet grenadiers with G43s will shred a conscript squad in seconds. Adding an LMG helps too :D
7 Mar 2014, 11:58 AM
#27
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those g43 rifles are extremely good at dealing with enemy snipers from what i can tell and obviously any long range engagement they should always win.
7 Mar 2014, 16:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Mar 2014, 06:27 AMTNrg


Panzerwerfer is a good option vs snipers but unfortunately german T4 is too expensive in most 1v1 games...


Against soviet T4 there is no need to get T3 as germans. What is he going to do? Rush your base with a SU85?

Build german T3 against soviet T3. Get a shrek squad and tech to T4 against soviet T4.


17 Mar 2014, 16:28 PM
#29
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finally pulled back a victory after losing 6 in a row...i used the mechanized assault doctrin.

3x ass grens
1x mg42
1x gren(for faust on car)

then got halftrack with pgren call in to deal with shocks

gg thanks for coming
19 Mar 2014, 19:48 PM
#30
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lost 6 2v2 in a row now. conscript spam into shocks into su-85/katyusha. Loose so much map control in the first few minutes its gg.
20 Mar 2014, 14:55 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Mar 2014, 19:48 PMTetley
lost 6 2v2 in a row now. conscript spam into shocks into su-85/katyusha. Loose so much map control in the first few minutes its gg.

ive been doing well in 2v2 i think ive won about 13 of my last 15 games. with my AT (partner) we have 8 wins to 1 loss at the moment which isnt bad i think and this is all high level play (mostly level 100) players.

i generally go 4 grens and then a sniper (or an mg depending on map).
with good sniper control their shocks will shit off. i usually get around 20+ kills with my snipers which is decent id say. obviously just targeting weapons teams or call-in infantry.

i usually go elite troops vs shocks and use troop training on 2 gren squads and i give them mg42 lmg. with that and stun grenades they generally chop up shocks and with a sniper nearby they are toast. and when they go shocks they wont have guards to counter flame halftrack will is also a good choice vs shocks.

personally i prefer facing shocks to gaurds paired with snipers.

what my partner and i have been doing just as general 2v2 tips: ( NOTE: im no pro but this is just my opinion )

we both generally get a sniper after a couple of gren squads then onto t2 after quite a big t1 play.

also one person always builds a medic bunker back at the HQs.

and he normally goes t3 with some artillery doctrin

and i go t4 for panthers plus i usually get a tiger or tiger ace as well.

if you mange to get panthers out the reds will be in trouble.

then between my late game heavy armour and my partners support and arty its gg
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