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Is it worth upgrading 670 into 780?

6 Feb 2014, 02:52 AM
#1
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My rig config

CPU: Intel Haswell i5-4670K
MB: Gigabyte Z87X UD3H
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 8GB (may upgrade into 16GB soon)
Display: Asus DC2OC GTX-670 2GB
SSD: Plextor M5Pro 256GB
Internet: 1Gbps

This rig was just bought in 2013 July (was for COH2) but really can't deal with the new games I am playing.

Tomb Raider: can't enable tressfx FFS
COH2: average FPS below 40 just meh
AC4: seems fine at least for now

I don't want to try ATI once more, I had enough trouble with their driver before.
6 Feb 2014, 16:53 PM
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Its a pretty decent upgrade, maybe 15-20% increase in performance.
6 Feb 2014, 20:00 PM
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The performance increase is worth it but don't do it just for Tomb Raider and CoH2. If you want to get BF4, Arma 3, DayZ, Watchdogs, or that Tom Clancys MMORPG thats coming later this year then you will probably be happy.
6 Feb 2014, 23:12 PM
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I don't see why people have had problems with AMD drivers.. I've had AMD (ATI) since Radeon 9600 Pro. Had since then, Radeon 9800 pro , x800 XT, x1600m and now HD 7850. I'm eager to get a R9 280x, hopefully soon.

And never had a single driver problem, Sure I've had with beta, like now with Mantle and BF4. But that is understandable..
6 Feb 2014, 23:32 PM
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unless you plan on using multiple screens,I would personally go with the GTX 770, half the price.
7 Feb 2014, 06:19 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Feb 2014, 23:32 PMZ3r07
unless you plan on using multiple screens,I would personally go with the GTX 770, half the price.

About two weeks ago there were some really good prices on aftermarket 770s ($300) but it went back up to $400 now. I haven't bought my 780 yet but imo the performance increase is definitely worth the extra $80 because you can run every single game @ 1080p everything on ultra with excellent frames even while streaming or recording 1080p. A 770 is a great card but in the near future (and even now with some games) you will need to turn some stuff down or off for optimal performance. Even though most games still look great without all the bells and whistles, I'm looking forward to the day when I just crank everything all the way up and forget about it.
7 Feb 2014, 14:26 PM
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What bothers me is a 770 is the exact same chip as the old 680, its just clocked up a little higher. The 780 and above are actually the newer Kepler chips rather than re-branded old ones.
8 Feb 2014, 10:47 AM
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I own the Readon R280X and it is a great graphic card. If I was you, I would consider to buy an AMD card. Don't forget that both latest consoles (xBox One and PS4) are driven both by AMD CPU and GPU. One can assume that a lot of games will be optimized for AMD chips in the future. But since AMD CPUs aren't competitive at the moment I would stick with Intel CPU. AMD drivers work fine for me.
8 Feb 2014, 10:57 AM
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What bothers me is a 770 is the exact same chip as the old 680, its just clocked up a little higher. The 780 and above are actually the newer Kepler chips rather than re-branded old ones.

+1 to bud..

If you realy want a new graphics then go for the 780 - or even better if your pocket can allow it the GTX 780 TI.

I have a GTX 780 DCUII and I am more than happy - for now gaming on 1080p but when I will upgrade it will be a 3 monitor surround. So there for I am seriously thinking about changing to the GTX 780 TI for SLI.

As of NOW if I had a 670 then I would go for a GTX 780 TI - before the R9 290 was a very good price option if you slapped a custom cooler on to it or water cooled it - but now the prices have gone up and I would not spend any money on a r9 290.
8 Feb 2014, 19:30 PM
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If you can wait for Maxwell i'd do it. (next gen Nvidia) They'll be out later this year.

AMD cards are good and have Mantle support. That said, i had a 290 and sold it for the 780. It ran hot and loud and the constant throttling for what seemed like no reason in games was a real annoyance that I hated. It even throttled after putting an Accelero cooler on it. In the end it wasnt worth the hassle compared to a 780. The daily overclock i run on my 780 puts it right at 780 Ti performance and its dead silent and tops out below 70C. I cant ask for more tbh.
10 Feb 2014, 16:58 PM
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Question you have to ask yourself is : Do you really want to invest ~50% of your initial rig cost (I suppose yours was around 700-800$) just for 15% more performance, which will be like 6 fps more on CoH 2. For other games it'll be similar.

Oh, and as I'm looking through your configuration...

I have a similar Rig and I can play/stream CoH 2 in full HD resolution @max. LOD in 4v4 without having fps lower than 40. tomb Raider also ran with highest possible settings without any problems.

If I were you I'd check the pc for malware, test the hdd for errors and maybe reinstall windows (idk how well you protect yourself against stuff like malware or viruses, but after working in a PC store for a bit it's the most common cause for PCs underperforming).

For my personal opinion: spending 400 bucks for 6 fps more in games that I play isn't worth it. also, 16gb is unnecessary right now, unless you're planning to fill up your ram with playing Tomb Raider, CoH 2 and BF at the same time :D ...

It's like with a Highway - if the highway is empty it does not matter if you can drive on 4 or 8 tracks. You'll still not be hindered to reach your destination in time.
If the highway however already has very high traffic those 4 extra tracks might come in handy.
13 Feb 2014, 06:55 AM
#12
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It was actually like 1600 USD because I have more SSD, water cooling kit and normal hard disks not stated above. If I gonna upgrade it, I will sell 670 compensating the cost, so it would be around 20% of initial rig cost.

I would blame Relic or Nvidia not optimising the game enough for COH2 and Lara's Tressfx instead of other software crap. I was like, "OK, if I buy 670 I can play whatever in highest graphic in the following 3 years", but the first day of COH2 release, Relic just say NO.

It was like, fuck, how can I gonna micro in craplike fps while blizzard? I have highest effect, AA and Vsync disabled, OK-ish in summer map, but barely playable while OBS / Xsplit is running. (I just got pissed enough losing squad to nades and charges in Blizzard)

For Tomb Raider, switching on Tressfx becomes totally unplayable.


I will play Watchdog, Splitter cell, or re-play GTA V if Rockstar planning to make it.
14 Feb 2014, 01:13 AM
#13
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If you can shit money just buy it then :D
14 Feb 2014, 15:29 PM
#14
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Just get this ass kicking card, COH2 benchmark giving 59 average FPS (from 39 in 670), Tomb Raider with 4XAA & TreSSFX benchmark giving 53 average FPS (from 29 in 670, 49 without TreSSFX).

Really happy with this upgrade. :)

Little note: This new GPU has some trouble in Hackintosh OSX, OpenCL crash everywhere, but the community just fix it before Nvidia :rolleyes:
14 Feb 2014, 15:47 PM
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That's one unnecessary upgrade.
14 Feb 2014, 23:09 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 15:29 PMPorygon




Just get this ass kicking card, COH2 benchmark giving 59 average FPS (from 39 in 670), Tomb Raider with 4XAA & TreSSFX benchmark giving 53 average FPS (from 29 in 670, 49 without TreSSFX).

Really happy with this upgrade. :)

Little note: This new GPU has some trouble in Hackintosh OSX, OpenCL crash everywhere, but the community just fix it before Nvidia :rolleyes:


you wont be dissapointed! I have the same one and its going under water now!
15 Feb 2014, 11:15 AM
#17
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Is using dual monitor the reason why I have quite shitty performance with 670?
18 Feb 2014, 10:04 AM
#18
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The 670 kills in FPS games. But I get far more frames than you with my 7850 in COH2 simply because it's ATI and not Nvidia. It's crazy.... The 670 cost, like $349 didn't it? Mine was $179 and I got 2 free games which I sold for around $60 making the card just about $110... For that price I couldn't pass it up. Plus... I sold my 6870 and another 6870, so essentially my upgrade was free and then some. Look into a 7950 maybe. If you must stick with Nvidia though, just wait for next gen cards so you get way more performance than a measly 10-20%. The only way to really boost your games would be with the 780 ti and it's uber $$$.

Heck...when COH2 came out, people with Titans were complaining.
25 Feb 2014, 20:54 PM
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I just saw a new series from ASUS - Asus ROG G750JZ with 880M which is cheaper than series with 780M :D
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