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NorthWestFresh vs Vonivan

by NorthWestFresh 19th April 2014, 12:42 PM
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Patch: 3.0.0.13106
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19 Apr 2014, 12:42 PM
#1
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I know he doesn't play Germans that much, a Soviet player like me :D. But it still feels good to beat one of the top ranked players so here it is this also shows the Tier1+Tier2 to IS2 call in build I've been using. The only thing that I have found that you can actually rely on as a Soviet player this patch. As you can see in the replay if you do well or decent your Is-2 will not be far behind his P4 in most case scenarios. I found that the Russian army absolutely needs both 1+2 to compete with the german army, you get both tiers and a few units from each depending on situation you will find the German army doesn't feel quite so insanely op.
19 Apr 2014, 18:32 PM
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IS2 is the best all around tank in the game. GG WP
19 Apr 2014, 20:40 PM
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GG wp by NWF. However, this match was lost due to VonIvan's mistakes more than anything else.

3 Grens was fine, and recognizing large amount of cons and getting an MG42 to counter was good play.

But then he started making bad choices. As soon as he saw T1 he should tech T2 and get out a scout car or 2, instead of a Mortar. There is absolutely No reason to skip German T2 this patch. The reasoning before was Sniper Clown Car OR a fast T-70, but both those are no longer possible, thus skipping T2 to rush out a tank is not necessary anymore and weakens your position considerably early/mid game. This early/mid game weakness allowed you to get enough fuel for an IS-2 basically the same time he got a P4.
19 Apr 2014, 20:44 PM
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GG wp by NWF. However, this match was lost due to VonIvan's mistakes more than anything else.

3 Grens was fine, and recognizing large amount of cons and getting an MG42 to counter was good play.

But then he started making bad choices. As soon as he saw T1 he should tech T2 and get out a scout car or 2, instead of a Mortar. There is absolutely No reason to skip German T2 this patch. The reasoning before was Sniper Clown Car OR a fast T-70, but both those are no longer possible, thus skipping T2 to rush out a tank is not necessary anymore and weakens your position considerably early/mid game.


If you make all the correct choices and have comparable skill level, you can't lose with Germans this patch.

That being said, NWF capitalized on VonIvan's mistakes very well so gg wp. Always GREAT to see TIger Ace get PWNED!
20 Apr 2014, 00:47 AM
#5
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Considering I was piss drunk while playing this game a few nights ago I'm not surprised by the amount of mistakes I made after watching the replay. GG WP though for the effort MVGame
20 Apr 2014, 04:55 AM
#6
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MVgame then I guess right?
20 Apr 2014, 15:17 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2014, 00:47 AMVonIvan
Considering I was piss drunk while playing this game a few nights ago I'm not surprised by the amount of mistakes I made after watching the replay. GG WP though for the effort MVGame


yeah sure...nice excuse, we all know NorthWestFresh is far more better player than you
20 Apr 2014, 15:49 PM
#8
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bad micro,
2 Pz4s vet 2 for kill a IS-2 !!!! Nope MVGame

Just go T-4 vs this freshreborn, Panther-Panzerwerfer and it's game over.

Pz 4 > IS-2 Kappa, did you drink Mister Vonivan ? Kappa
22 Apr 2014, 15:02 PM
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IS-2 is countered by Stugs, but Germans don't seem to know how to build Stugs. If you verse a good German you will just lose to Panther + Stug or Tiger + Stug.
22 Apr 2014, 15:44 PM
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If he have zis + is-2, you are dead. Panther + panzerwerfer and you win normaly.
22 Apr 2014, 16:01 PM
#11
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Yep, PanzerWerfers Nullfy Ziss's and get Squad wipes so easily.
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